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Ham-Policy Digest           Sat, 22 Oct 94       Volume 94 : Issue  499

Today's Topics:
                            CW QSO Content
                          New callsign cost?
                 NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins

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Date: 21 Oct 1994 21:57:40 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Richard McAllister)
Subject: CW QSO Content

In article <382a72$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dr. Michael Mancini) writes:

>Something earned through sacrifice is valued much more than something
>unearned.

So, *that's* why breakins at the houses of rich people who inherited
their money is ignored by society, while breakins at the homes of
working people in the inner city are treated seriously.  Thanks!  I always
wondered why that was.
--
Rich McAllister ([e-mail])

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Date: 22 Oct 1994 05:20:43 GMT
From: [e-mail] (gregory brown)
Subject: New callsign cost?

Mike Staples ([e-mail]) wrote:


: I understand that there is a fee for changing an existing call sign to
: a 'personalized' version.  Is there a fee for a change of callsign if you
: just want to upgrade it to reflect your current license grade?


:                                         TNX!


:                                             Mike


No.  Just request a callsign change on a "610" and send it to the FCC.
Check the callsign updates for your call area first, though.  Depending
on your class and area, you may not get much of an "improvement".

Greg
WB0RTK

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Date: 21 Oct 1994 17:41:13 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Bob Wilkins  n6fri)
Subject: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins

This was found floating on the Amateur Packet BBS system. What do you think?


 From  : K7WWA@K7WWA.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM
To    : INFO@ALLUS

*** FLAME ON
*** I think this needs to be shared.
*** AB6GQ was licensed on 2 Jul 1991. He is now an Amateur Extra (?). He
*** sure must think his is something if he really started this one.
*** FLAME OFF

Original from AB6GQ to SYSOP@NCPA
Path: !KC6PJW!WX3K!WB0TAX!KA6EYH!KA6EYH!W6PW!KA6FUB!WA6RDH!KM6PX!

 From  : AB6GQ@KM6PX.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM
To    : SYSOP@NCPA

Hello dedicated SYSOPs.  My name is Fred Sober, and I am the Official
Observer Coordinator for the Sacramento Valley Section of the ARRL. I
am sending this bulletin at the suggestion of some of the local BBS
SYSOPs, who thought you should be aware of the following info:

Approximately one year ago, I initiated a series of correspondance
with John B. Johnson, Chief of the Private Radio Bureau of the FCC.
Due to the confusion of Amateur Radio Packet BBS users regarding
the permissible message content of bulletins, and the growing
tendency to abuse the system, we requested FCC clarification regarding
the definition of "One-Way Bulletins" and "Bulletin Message Content"
as it specifically applied to Amateur Packet Radio.  The position of
the FCC is as follows:

1.  Any packet message or bulletin sent to ANYTHING other than another
specific Amateur Callsign (EXCLUDING the callsign of the BBS) is
considered to be a "One-Way Bulletin," and as such must comply
with Part 97 in terms of permissible message content for such
bulletins.  Also stated was the definition of "anything" (above),
which is such addressing as to ALL, ALLUS, ALLCA, Food, Drugs,
Guns, or anything else, other than another specific amateur
callsign.

2.  The information sent MUST NOT BE INTENDED for anyone but other
licensed Amateur.  "Intent" is determined by "Message Content," not
by the mental intent of the message originator.

3.  The Information sent MUST BE RELATED TO, AND OF INTEREST TO
AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS ONLY!

4.  Any Packet Bulletin which contains material which relates to
anything not directly related to amateur radio, or of interest to
amateur radio operators only, is considered to be "Broadcasting."
This includes material on Cars, Guns, Politics, Food, Jokes,
Current Events, etc. etc. etc.

In the above listing the emphasis was supplied by the FCC in the
letter I have on file.

For further clarification you may refer to the "FCC Rule Book"
published by the ARRL, (1993 Edition).  On Pages 6-6 and 6-7
the topic of information bulletins on packet radio is discussed.
The highlighted section in the box is a paraphrase of the letters
I have on file from the FCC.

Upon notifying the ARRL Rules Department of this Clarification,
they made the determination that the abuses in this regard were]
so widely spread and prevalent, that the League and the Official
Observers needed to undertake an educational effort regarding
this ruling, prior to beginning a notification effort on the
individual offenders.  This would prevent an overwhelming
overload of the OO Program.

Some BBS SYSOPS, such as KM6PX, upon learning of this clarification
voluntarily and unilaterally decided to set the clarified
standards as the operating standard for their BBS's.  They began
editing and deleting any bulletin traffic which did not comply
with the above.

Technically, with the latest rulings by the FCC, the BBS SYSOP is
jointly responsible for violations of Part 97, by operators which
originate a bulletin through their BBS into the system.

Technically, the FCC can at any time begin issuing NAL's to the
Operators and SYSOPS for any bulletins in violation of the above.

Practically, I do not know when the OO Notices and NAL's may
start being issued, but it behooves you as a BBS SYSOP to be
aware of the current rulings and facts, and hopefully to be in
compliance prior to any notification or enforcement actions
being taken.

73, keep up the good work!  Fred Sober, AB6GQ

*** Yes, Fred, keep up the good work. I'm glad that you are doing all

*** that you can to make Amateur radio packet boring.

*** 73 George K7WWA @ K7WWA.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM


Bob



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     Bob Wilkins                     work    [e-mail]
 Berkeley, California                home    [e-mail]
     94701-0710                      play    n6fri@n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.noam

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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 05:59:38 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)

References<37l6o9$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: CW: Law or Choice ?

[e-mail] (Ray Whitfield) writes:

>CW once was the only game in town.
>Now it is a part of the game, and one that is loosing popularity daily.

>KC5ISS

Ray, can you provide us with some data to back up your statement?
At least when I claim that about 1/2 the HF QSO's that I hear
here in the Central Pacific are conducted via CW, I can back
up that claim by showing folks my monitoring log with times,
dates, and bands.

Jeff NH6IL

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Date: 22 Oct 1994 05:16:28 GMT
From: [e-mail] (gregory brown)

References<[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Kindness and ham radio


: In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] wrote:

: >Hey Gary, why is it that here on .policy you condemn HF ops who exchange
: >QSL cards by calling them `post card collectors' yet on .misc it's FB to
: >exchange them for DX repeater contacts?

: Because DXers collect them for *score*, IE they aren't interested
: in the card or the person they contacted, only in counting coup.
: The folks exchanging cards for repeater contacts aren't going for
: score, repeater contacts don't count in DX games, they're just using
: the card for it's original purpose, as a memento of a communication
: with another person.

: I object to the gaming, and the corruption of the original purposes
: of the QSL card, not the exchange of QSL cards per se.

: Gary
: --
: Gary Coffman KE4ZV

Gary, you continue to paint a black and white senario of everything
you see and pretend to understand..."DXers" feel _this_
way..."Repeater operators" feel _that_ way....  It must be great to
pigeon-hole the rest of the world into "the good-guys" and "the bad
guys", as if everyone in your defined groups share every attribute you
wish to assign them.  _Some_ DXers fit your definition.  So what?
Many (most) do not.  I read every card I get, and especially enjoy the
ones which tell about the operator, the place, or whatever...as my
cards do.  That's what it is all about.  I also enjoy contests and
"gaming".  Who the Hell are you to judge other people or other
interests, anyway?

Your repertoire seems quite limited.  Sometimes, if one repeats
himself enough times, people begin to believe him.  Other times,
people just get tired of hearing the same old stuff, and wonder why he
can't find something else to say.  Guess what...?

Greg
WB0RTK

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